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July 05, 2004

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ChefQuix

I hope a pandoras box is opened by this because then it will expose the true nature of this conflict - a religious war where people have to take sides or be burned at the stake. Only then will the true vileness of our 'modern' religions expose itself.

Moze

I have to think that any American who found him- or herself the hostage of an insurgent cell in Iraq after the beheading of Nick Berg would surely rate the chances for survival as bleak. I have to think that every American soldier in Iraq evaluates and re-evaluates this prospect daily. I have to think that facing certain beheading, Wassef has used every means at his disposal to keep his spinal column working in concert with his Medulla Oblongata, including letting his captors believe he is first and foremost a Muslim.

An alternative is that Wassef is first and foremost a Muslim, and that his time as a U.S. Marine is so abhorrent that he would seek protection from people who would happily kill him for having lived a life in Utah.

The truth, I suppose, lies somewhere in between…

I have no problem with Muslims serving in the U.S. military. I think love of God AND love of Country is what our founding fathers meant by “separation of Church and State.” Japanese Americans fought in World War II while their families were rounded up into camps… Navajos spoke their native tongue in defense of a United States that placed their ancestors on the Reservation… Today, there are Muslims who understand America, and some of them are U.S. Citizens.

I think the failure of modern Islamic terrorism is the underestimation of this essentially American fabric. American Agnostics will fight along side American Methodists, who will fight along side American Baptists, American Jews, American Buddhists, [insert your favorite religion(s) here]…

Think that Wassef will lie down at your own peril.

Cheers,

ChefQuix

*no offense. ;)

tallglassofmlik

[I think love of God AND love of Country is what our founding fathers meant by “separation of Church and State.”]

That may be, but what about Allah and country? Whole different ballgame... impossible for someone to serve Allah and our country.

Moze

[…impossible for someone to serve Allah and our country.]

Hmmm. Impossible for a student of a Wahabbist Madrasa, perhaps. Despite the troubling silence of the Muslim American community on beheadings, Iraqi insurgence, etc., I am not persuaded this is true for all Muslims…

Cheers,

tallglassofmilk

The silence is deafening...

ravens

So if you have mandatory conscription (once all the reservists are used up) does this mean a Muslim must renounce his/her faith? Or would conscientious objection be allowed?
What other groups would fall under this mis-placed, or at least conflicted, loyalty?

Moze

[Has pandora’s box been opened by this…?]

Yes… Wassef’s Muslim beliefs and/or ME lineage have apparently saved him from the fate of other Americans kidnapped by Al Qaeda, et. al. The message? “Western” (European, American, Australian, etc.) Muslims and/or peoples of ME descent may be spared if they renounce their allegiance to their Country.

[[This] will expose the true nature of this conflict - a religious war where people have to take sides or be burned at the stake.]

Despite the attraction of calling “The War on Terror” what it seems to be—a Holy War—the fact that the majority of terrorists who have declared jihad on the U.S. are Wahabbi (Fundamentalist) Islamist must remain incidental. What is wrong with Holy War? Religion is the preferred battleground of our enemy.

Fundamentalist Islam surely views the U.S. concept of Separation of Church and State as an Achilles heel. The U.S. is home to the many faces of God. Substituting “Fundamentalist Islamists” for the term “Terror” forces U.S. leadership into the awkward position of having to name God. Whether that name is Christian, Hindu, “not Fundamentalist Islam,” or even human secularism, the naming does two destructive things: 1) it alienates one or more groups of U.S. Citizens from the protections and principles that are the USA, and 2) it magnifies the distinctions between religious beliefs, thereby polarizing the differences among otherwise like-minded people. The effect is division, an erosion of what makes the U.S. powerful: the unity of its people…

While I am relieved that Wassef has escaped the fate of Nick Berg and Paul Johnson, I am troubled by the Terrorists’ success in communicating the unspoken message in Wassef’s release to Muslims the world over…

Cheers,

Charles Turner

I think Cpl. Wassef Ali Hassoun should be caught, courts martialed and sentence to the same fate that Pvt Eddie Slovic got. The FIRING SQUAD!!! I think his family should also be arrested and punished to the fullest extent of the law.
More then likely Houssoun came back to his family with orders from the Lebonese liberation front, or whomever they are. Cpl. Wassef Ali Hassoun is guilty of the same thing that Eddie Slovic did and more. And then he deserted again. This man endangered his unit and other units in Iraq. More then likely he gave information that we as American soldiers are not supposed to give the enemy - I vote for the FIRING SQUAD

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