An attempt at disfranchisement has been made against this...

Well drinkers, it appears your tallglassofmilk is a victim of voter fraud. Turns out that if I hadn't voted early, there's a pretty good chance I might have been hauled off in handcuffs on November 2, for attempting to vote twice. Now it might be somebody else who gets hauled away.

Sometime between the recall election and today, someone other than myself has taken the liberty of registering me as a democrat at an address I do not and have never lived at--and they used or forged my signature to do it.

I am unclear at this time if this is widespread or an isolated indident, random or personal, and if personal, against the tallglassofmilk or her real life persona.

The woman at the polling site was very helpful and referred me to a someone in the Los Angeles Registrar's Office, who was not very helpful and who was surprisingly uninterested in getting to the bottom of the fraud. The woman only seemed concerned with the fact that I was able to cast my vote--which I was. But that doesn't mean a crime hasn't been committed! I requested a copy of the voter registration affidavit, but I won't receive it til later next week.

I do not know if someone intends to show up and vote as if they were me. If they do, they are in for a big surprise. I was assured that any attempt to vote twice under the same name and signature would result in immediate arrest. Of course, I realize that by blogging this, that if the person who perpetrated this fraud is reading and was planning to vote, they will be disuaded and will not be caught. But I think that's unlikely and besides, I thought it more important to make you aware of the lengths that the democrats (seriously, who else would register me as one) are going to "steal back" the vote.

Meanwhile, I'm not sure what to do next. Who's got good advice for me?

Orig. posted Oct. 23, 7:51PMI await a copy of the forged affidavit and a return call from the California Republican party. I have also filled out the State of Californian Election Complaint Form and need to get it notarized and mailed off today. I am waiting to file a police report til I get a copy of the affidavit, but I have alerted the credit bureaus and put a fraud alert on my credit file as I'm told by many that electoral rolls are the first step to identity fraud.

I'm a little frustrated cause all the numbers that people have given me to report this are either not in service, have voice mail and not real person or are perpetually busy.

Update Oct. 25, 11:11AMOh yeah, I have also emailed and plan to phone the local talk radio shows as well as some other contacts. I have already been contacted by one major network newsmagazine and one "nonpartisan election protection" agency. Stay tuned for more info.

Update Oct. 25, 4:40PM

Comments

[Peter]

I actually do have some advice. A crime has been committed, report it. Report it twice. In my home state the local agency handling such crime is the County Sheriff's Office. Since your vote is a basic civil right then an attempt to disenfranchise you is also a federal beef, you should report this to the Feebs. If the pretty boys of the FBI are true to form they'll let the locals solve the crime and swoop in at the last minute to take the credit.
Do so in writing and make copies, three sets of copies of everything. Send a copy to your Republican County Headquarters, keep a copy for yourself and, silly as it sounds, a copy to the local office of the ACLU. Heck, make two more copies and send one to the LA Daily News and another to the LA Times.

[noodge]

I don't really have any advice, I just wanted to say that I cannot believe that someone would do that. What kind of loser tries to vote as someone else? Not to scare you or anything, but did you report it to the police? I would be worried about what else they were trying to do while pretending to be you.

[Gullyborg]

since it's a federal election, the FBI has the jurisdiction. go to them right off the bat.

next, consider if you have the resources hiring a PI. whoever did it probably did it to vote fraudulently, so you might be able to track them down on your own and catch them on election day trying to vote.

NO, I am not saying catch them yourself. But if your PI can find them and tail them, then a call to the cops can mean people in black suits waiting with handcuffs at the polling station.

A PI actually might have a good chance at cracking it, and since the feds are pretty busy going after higher profile criminals like home and garden mavens from Food TV, is more likely to actually find the perp before election day.

How would a PI start? Well, registered voters are listed all over the place, so that political campaigns, fund raisers, and lobbying groups can call you up and harass you for votes and money. I'd say start there. Find out how many times your name appears on voter registry lists, then check addresses. My guess would be that, in order to ensure that the perp is able to receive absentee ballots, a real address was used somewhere to get a ballot with your name on it.

Just a thought.

Hey, if you like the PI idea but can't afford it, how about a blog campaign to raise the funds? I'd kick in $5.

[julie]

How do you know there was fraud involved as opposed to someone who simply as the same name as you do?

[tallglassofmilk]

They are using my signature.

[Moze]

My wife is the clerk for a real small town in Colorado. Two years ago, the town held an election. Mind you, in recent elections, there have been no more than 60 or so voters registered to vote in the town.

I say this because my wife discovered voter fraud in the election. Given the number of voters, this wasn't exactly like finding a needle in a haystack. Seems a couple from a very large southern state decided to register and vote in both places.

Voter fraud is a Felony. My wife turned the case over to the DA, but when push came to shove, the offenders managed to avoid the obvious crap storm that constitutes criminal prosecution. I don't know all the details.

It's one thing to detect voter fraud. It is entirely another to be "duplicated" by another person for voting purposes. Forget about the fact this person likely has political views diametrically opposed to your own. This is not merely voter fraud, it is identity theft.

Don’t kid yourself. Because you blog and this phlegm wad can read, he/she/it singled you out.

You mention an alternate address, and that you have never lived there, so I presume you have seen the address. Have you tried to find out anything about the address at which this person registered as you? Is the address a residence, and if so, who lives there? Is the address in the County in which you actually reside? There is probably no physical connection between the address and the perpetrator, but there is likely a reason why he/she/it chose that address, just as surely as there is a reason why he/she/it registered you as Democrat.

Don’t let this slide. In the saying “One [woman], one vote” there is no qualifying clause that subjugates conservatives.

Cheers,

[Craig]

Julie,

Note the last clause of the second paragraph - if the signature matches, it's not an innocent duplication.

[tallglassofmilk]

We are researching the address. In fact I even drove by it today and can tell you that I only wished I lived there... a big fat house on the valley side of the Hollywood Hills.

There are several names attached to the address in a simple public records search.

My name comes up on some with no other info about me. But if you were to search my name, generally you get all my past residences and this one is not included. When my name does appear with this address, there is no additional information on me attached.

It's more than bizarre. More details as I get them. For sure I am NOT going to let this slide unless of course waiting the several days for a copy of this affidavit kills me.

[Moze]

[When my name does appear with this address, there is no additional information on me attached.]

Sounds like you are way ahead of me on the address angle. This lends credence to my gut feeling that you have been singled out.

I'd start by researching the individuals associated with the address without bias. It's just a hunch, but I don't think your perpatrator has a direct connection with that address. The perpetrator thinks this address is a safe way to hide his/her/its identity. Why does the perpetrator think this address is a Red Hearing?

Cheers,

[Matt]

The person that registered you was probably just one of your liberal friends trying to do you a favor. I wouldn't get too upset about it.

[Moze]

[Red Hearing]

Did somebody open up a can of anchovie paste? Oh, sorry, that's me spelling "Herring."

Cheers,

[Gullyborg]

Matt reveals typical liberal attitudes towards voter fraud. Pretend it was some right-wingers getting a few votes at the expense of some lefties, and Lawrence Tribe would be arguing violation of the due process clause to the Supreme Court. Oh wait, you don't have to pretend. They did that crap trying to steal votes in Florida.

[Matt]

Not the case at all. I was just kidding, honestly. I guess I just find it hard to believe that a fellow democrat would do such a thing, so it's hard to take it seriously. It's altogether more devious than I give us credit for. I think it's probably a fluke.

[Moze]

[liberal friends trying to do you a favor...]

Matt, by placing a transparent oxymoron next to an unapologetic spin on the malice of fraud, you give new meaning to the term "air-bag deployment."

Cheers,

[Matt]

That was harsh. Harsh and uncalled for. I didn't come out looking for trouble. Just presenting my own slightly different point of view. Hope that's okay. This is an American website, right?

[John]

Peter is giving the best advice here. Voter registration--even for a federal election--is a state matter. The state makes and enforces rules concerning voting. The county and state law enforcement offices--from the DA downwards--should be papered. Definitely send copies to our Republican group, but send it to the Democratic group, too--let a few beads of sweat bother their composure.

Certainly contact every single media outlet in your county, from the local paper to the alternative paper to the local TV and radio shows. If there's a talk-radio show, get on it.

Spending your time publicizing what was done to you will at least give some others the chance to check on their own situation.

Do contact the FBI, too, though. While no apparent attempt at further identity theft has been made--yet--this is an unambiguous first step.

But don't mix the two messages: keep voter registration fraud separate from identity theft. The Media don't like multi-threaded stories. Keep it simple for them, as well as for their audiences.

[Moze]

Matt, with all due respect, you're the one who marched in here with the suggestion that tgom shouldn't be too upset about someone trying to usurp her vote.

Your justification is, apparently, that tgom's thinking is wrong, so anything you do to correct her is not only OK, she should heed it and be grateful.

This is not a "slightly different view point," it is precisely the view point necessary to justify voter fraud.

Harsh? I think you're the pot calling the kettle black.

Cheers,

[Gullyborg]

ya see, Matt, if you were just some random guy making a little jokee, no one would have given it much thought. but when I clicked on your website and found it is called "votersagainstbush" it changes from a joke to what has the image of a snide partisan smear. maybe you really were trying to be funny, but there is no way to tell things like "tone of voice" or "facial expression" in a comments post. point being, if a person like me, whose blog is clearly partisan for Bush, showed up in the comments of a leftist blog, making a comment that poked fun at a liberal's identity theft for voter fraud, I'd end up with 100 obscene comments to delete because the folks on your side respond to humor with ad hominem attacks.

so maybe you are just trying to be funny. well news flash: it didn't work. if you are sincere, you can retreat gracefully, say something positive, and no one will hold it against you.

[Matt]

FYI, it's not my blog, it's a friend's, but I contribute to it occasionally.

I assure you that I was smiling as I typed and only meant it in jest. If someone is trying to steal a vote or multiply it somehow, then of course you should seek out remedies with the appropriate authorities.

Like I said, I guess I just find it hard to believe. I happen to think that Kerry's in a great position to win fair and square. It would be a total shame if some nutcase were to try and steal a vote and shame all of us.

I'm not trying to justify voter fraud. Just saying that I'm sure it's probably just a mistake or a prank of something.

[IR]

If you haven't already, make sure you fill out the "Election Complaint Form" which is available through the CA Secretary of States website. You will be filling out the section related to "altering registration information." Your violation is a State venue, and therefore, you don't need to file an affidavit. However, if you would like to get creative, you could report a crime relative to indentity theft (Penal Code 530.5 to 530.7). Although I'm not really up to speed in California, I think Identity Theft can either be a Mis, or a Class D Felony depending on the circumstances and the prosecutor.

In the interim, I would contact the Election Bureau, and identify a specific individual employed at the polling place of the new address. Provide the information necessary for them to flag the name.

At the very least, you can give them that address so they can cross reference it to see how many other names are registered under the same address...Don't depend on the folks you talked to today to do it...they have enough to do and will probably 86 it...

Election Fraud Complaint form link

Best of luck...
Cheers
IR

[Moze]

[I happen to think that Kerry's in a great position to win fair and square. It would be a total shame if some nutcase were to try and steal a vote and shame all of us.]

I made the point earlier that while voter fraud is a Felony, justice tends to turn a blind eye.

You're right. There is shame in voter fraud. But that shame is a whole lot more tolerable if you don't have to spend time in the pokey...

You're wrong that the Goose Hunter can win fair and square. Kerry can't win without a fraud.

The wheels on the Kerry bandwagon were already wobbling last week when Tereza took a swipe at The First Lady and missed. Look for the Kerry bandwagon to be draggin' axel soon.

Americans will vote National Security first. This is why George W. Bush will be re-elected.

Cheers,

[Beth]

Try 1-800-345-VOTE.

Don't spend another minute trying to track the cheat down until you know someone has done something about it.

I put up a story yesterday about a friend who witnessed blatant fraud...rather than assuming someone else had already complained, she called her local Bush-Cheney HQ and the state (FL) B-C HQ.
They got ON it immediately, and action was taken by the end of the day.
(I don't mean to link-whore, but details are HERE).
CALL THEM. RIGHT AWAY.

Hell, if you have to, call The Govinator!

[Matt]

If the voters vote National Security first, then John Kerry has nothing to worry about. After all, he didn't get caught napping while terrorists pulled off the first foreign attack on American soil in fifty years. Bush has a record of failing to protect us from terrorism. At least Clinton actually prevented the millenium bombing. Bush's credibility on this issue is wildly overrated.

Kerry is in a great position to win, and the left is energized in a way that I've never seen before. Gore made up something like four points on Election Day 2004. Kerry could make up more from the energy that I see.

I wouldn't make any bold predictions at this point, either way. All I'm saying is that Kerry is in a great position to win. Better bring the A game, R's, because there is a gang of previous non-voters that really disagrees with the President's policies and can't wait to do something about it.

[tallglassofmilk]

[he didn't get caught napping while terrorists pulled off the first foreign attack on American soil in fifty years.]

Matt, apparently you aren't familiar with Senator Kerry's record on the Senate Select Intelligence Committee. Please do some research on this...

Oh, and didn't your mama teach you this...?

[Matt]

I will certainly look into John Kerry's voting record on the Senate Select Intelligence Committee. Perhaps you would do well to read the Patriot Act, No Child Left Behind, and the 9/11 Commission Report.

And no, my mama didn't teach me any nonsense about military cuts by John Kerry when George Herbert Walker Bush and Bill Clinton were President. Downsizing was natural in the 90's. The threat of the Soviet Union was gone. The Gulf War was over before it started. Why not cut defense?

It wasn't the smaller military that ignored intelligence suggesting an impending terrorist threat, and it wasn't John Kerry who sat and read "My Pet Goat" and took an elevated tour of the heartland while his people burned.

I think Kerry will do a fine job, and I can't imagine how he could do much worse. At least he won't try to shift attention from one enemy to another and justify it with, "They are similar colors and worship the same God. I think they might have met in Prague."

George Bush is a disaster, and you can have him, just let us get him out of the White House first.

[tallglassofmilk]

[It wasn't the smaller military that ignored intelligence suggesting an impending terrorist threat and it wasn't John Kerry who sat and read "My Pet Goat" and took an elevated tour of the heartland while his people burned.]

Nor did I say it was. And thank you for helping me prove my point. It was JFK2 not doing his job on the intelligence committee or in the senate leading up to G Dubya's presidency that made us so vulnerable for an attack on 9/11? Have you read the 9/11 Report?

[Wayne Hurlbert]

This is a serious situation, and no place for any partisan debate. The fact is that our Tall Glass of Milk has been singled out for some malicious purpose. Voter fraud was the first step, and possibly entire identity theft is next.

Because TMOG is becoming a very well known spokesperson for the conservative cause, she became a target for some unsavoury types. I would say the same thing if she were (very hypothetically) a liberal spokesperson, as a crime has been committed, with the potential for even more. The action was almost certainly targeted against her for her political views, and her relatively high profile.

Voter fraud and identity theft, despite being two separate crimes, are very serious ones and should not be taken lightly. I would recommend contacting the proper authorities, as has been suggested, and contact the media as well, to alert the public to this criminal practice.

Whoever committed this heinous, and very personal crime, should be brought to justice.

[Johnny]

I notice how matt and similar trolls always point fingers and bitch and whine about the President. I can only surmise that the motivation is class envy and that they want to redistribute Americas wealth through excessive taxation to fund their many liberal left wing agendas.

TGOM I'm interested in seeing the indentification thief that violated your privacy and broke Federal law get the maximum penalty allowed.

[Aaron]

What kind of loser tries to vote as someone else?

There's absolutely no reason to believe this is a mistake or prank: Voter registration groups affiliated with the left, such as Soros' America Coming Together, are especially notorious for filing fraudulent registration, stealing absentee ballots, and even inventing entirely fictional people to "vote". They go to nursing homes and "help" the senile vote "correctly", they vote using the names of the recently deceased, they bribe the homeless with cigarettes to vote for their candidate (as Gore campaign staffers were caught on camera doing in 2000), they vote under the identities of party members who have recently moved away. Then there are the illegal immigrants who vote. It's endless and there's a thousand ways to do it, especially since Clinton's 1994 Motor Voter law made it so much easier.

Forging a registration to vote as someone else is literally the oldest trick in the book, and it happens a bare minimum of tens of thousands of times across the country in every Presidential election. It's serious shit, and our lovely host is more likely than not one of several hundred fraudulent registrations orchestrated by the same fraud perpetrators, whoever that may be. Now, if they actually were going to follow through and vote, that's another question, but it doesn't matter: It's a serious crime.

[Aaron]

By the way, Matt, this isn't "one nut" who would shame Kerry: There have been dozens of investigations involving Soros' groups as well as numerous other leftwing groups (and a few involving conservative groups, to be fair), adding up to thousands of fraudulent registrations. In at least one case, the investigators even received death threats. The sheer scale of the orchestrated fraud from the left this election makes 1960 seem downright clean.

Downsizing was natural in the 90's.

Can you explain why Kerry was doing it in the 80's, then? (...and no, he wasn't a prophet.)

[singaporesling]

Matt,

If you blame Bush for not preventing 911 after being in office for only nine months (it was clearly planned years in advance), then don't you similarly blame Clinton for the first attack on the World Trade Center?

Another thing, you are so predictable with your "Isn't this still America" malarky. Essentially what you are saying is that if you recieve any criticism at all you will fall back into a "What's happening, this is turning into a police state..." I find it so funny that you and your ilk run all over the place complaining about how we are turning into a police state, while Michael Moore makes gazillions and every lefty in Hollywood turns their movies into pot shots at this president.

I will enjoy your tears when you go down big next week.

[JuanB]

Last election, my wife was surprised to find she had already voted earlier, on one of the electronic machines. She told them she had not, they made a note, and they let her vote. They never asked for an ID.

"Why no ID?" I asked. "Oh, it's easy to fake," said the helpful Los Angeles County poll worker who seemed willing to let anyone vote.

The next person to vote under your name won't be arrested. They will be allowed to vote, no questions asked. The system is broken and must be fixed.

[Robert Crawford]

Here in Ohio, around 30,000 voter cards have been returned to Boards of Elections because the Post Office couldn't deliver them. Most of them appear to have come from ACT and ACORN registration drives.

If Kerry can win without fraud, why are so many of his supporting groups committing it?

[Allan Yackey]

Committing vote fraud may be a lot more difficult this year. First there are the Bloggers and the incredible explosion of the internet that makes this information available around the county in hours or days at the worst.

Second it is much easier to detect voter fraud with the use of data base managers. In the past finding people who vote in multiple districts or multiple states would have been an impossible job. Now all that is required is a cheap computer. Even without confidential data it is relatively easy. We all know that a lot of New Yorkers register and vote in Florida as well as in New York.
Merging two data bases to locate common social security numbers is too easy to discuss. But even with out that, the probability of two or more people with a common last name at a common address having the same first name and the same birthdates approached astronomical. You statistic freaks can do the math, but this little Pentium IV does two states in minutes. Then you have just a few names to check out.

The third and biggest reason it is going to be a whole heck of a lot tougher this year is that both political parties know about items one and two above. At least the RNC is acting on that knowledge. I for one will not be in my safe Blue State for the week leading up to the election. I am going to be in a battleground state working on the above and a few other interesting things.

To those who would commit voter fraud, I say “come on down” we are planning a special reward just for you.

By all means do report voter fraud to both political parties' national headquarters. I know the RNC is doing something about it. If the DNC has any interest in stopping it, that is good. If not it will at least tell them that people are reporting it. They know generally that the RNC hass a massive program to do something about this problem.

[Terry Gain]

Reporting this crime to the FBI is ok , but it's a micro approach. The macro approach is to get as much publicity about this as possible and go national. Contact CBS. I understand they have special expertise with forged documents.

[GMS]

I now live in Australia, here there is compulsory voting. The good thing about it is that electoral fraud is nearly zero as your nominated address is posted to, and if the mail is returned your name is taken off the electoral role. Any duplications are quickly sorted out and if a large number (though I have never heard of many happening at all) are detected then the results from that booth are investigated and if large scale fraud is detected that electorate may have to vote again. A few local elections (not compulsory) when audited have been found to contain a quite a number of dead people who have managed to vote and return to their grave somehow.
While people are apathetic about voting this crime that has happened to TGOM and thousands of others will continue.

[pedro]

Buy ammo. Lots and lots of ammo. A semiautomatic rifle. And learn to use them. We're going to need them -- if not this year, then in '08.

If fraud destroys the vote, then what is left?

[Trickster]

Matt - you wrote:
"If the voters vote National Security first, then John Kerry has nothing to worry about. After all, he didn't get caught napping while terrorists pulled off the first foreign attack on American soil in fifty years. Bush has a record of failing to protect us from terrorism. At least Clinton actually prevented the millenium bombing. Bush's credibility on this issue is wildly overrated."

I'm assuming you don't consider the 1st attack on the WTC a "foreign attack on American soil"? Unless the terrorists who launched that attack were US citizens, it seems that you are mistaken.

I would love to hear your response to the numerous complaints of voter intimidation and registration fraud that seem to be linked to the Democratic party. And please don't respond with some version of complaints of Republican fraud until we hear your response to Democratic intimidation and fraud.

Thank you.

Trickster

[Peter]

TGOM, please, PLEASE do not investigate this yourself. Turn it over to the boys and girls carrying guns. It isn't very safe snooping around people willing to commit a felony.
Pass it to the law, pass it to the media and pass it to the political party.
So far we've had more than one outright physical assault, more than one campaign headquarters shot up and hundreds of cases of vandalism, all coming from one side, the side of peace, tolerence and respect for diversity.
Don't put yourself at risk.

[Bec]

If nothing else, you've convinced me to go in and vote early. Thank you.

[Toren]

I have the depressing feeling that this election will be mired in investigations, recounts, and lawsuits right up until 2008, even if it is a inarguable landslide for Bush.

[Spoons]

I strongly recommend working through your local Republican Party, in addition to going to the election authorities. The election authorities have a strong incentive to sweep this under the rug.

[A.M.DeMerse]

We won't have to worry about terrorism abroad if this kind of thing continues to go on right here in the U.S.. Every citizen has the right to be what ever he or she wishes, to vote as he, or she, pleases, and that right is protected by law. Anyone who tries to take that away from you should be prosecuted. When you begin to interfere with our rights, you are interfering with what makes us American and we will end up no better than Bin Laden if we begin terrorizing our own people for their choices and views. Let's see some grown-up attitudes here. Thousands fought to give you these freedoms. Don' take them so lightly.

[Darleen]

All great suggestions for handling the voter fraud angle.

Re: the identity theft angle... I'm sure LA County DA office has an indentity theft unit (I'm in a DA office in another county .. we do, as it is a huge and growing problem). Then report this to your local PD, get the PD case # follow up with whatever detective gets assigned and ask if it has been forwarded to the ID theft unit.

A few general tips for avoiding ID theft:

Don't have your mail delivered at home (don't send mail from there either)
Never carry your SocSec card, avoid/refuse to give your SSN to anyone for any reason.
Check your credit reports every 6 months. (many police officers and DDA's check 'em every 3 because they are the target of ID thefts from disgruntled cons, usually gang-related, wanting to screw them over)

[Duane]

I would contact one of the three credit reporting agencies and put an identity theft notice on your credit.

Someone who has stolen your identity would use a voter registration card in your name to establish their (your) "identity" - you know, show a peice of mail with the "correct" address on it etc.

Not only will the alert on your credit help stop fraud, they'll send you a free copy of your credit report so that you can check that as well.

[actus]

What are the chances that its simply someone with the same name? whats at the other address?

[tallglassofmilk]

As mentioned, my signature has been copied or forged. This pretty much rules out someone else with my name. Certainly all the other people with my name have their own signature.

I want to thank everyone for their suggestions, I'll be taking many of them, and ignoring others:

[TGOM, please, PLEASE do not investigate this yourself. Turn it over to the boys and girls carrying guns.]

Have you considered this might not exclude me?

[It isn't very safe snooping around people willing to commit a felony.]

True. But my curiousity is something I have a hard time resisting.

[Pass it to the law, pass it to the media and pass it to the political party.]

I'm doing this too.

Thanks again everyone! I will certainly keep you posted on new developments.

FYI--Further investigation of the address has turned up multiple names connected to the address. Google has turned up some pretty interesting info on these folks--all the names appear to be real people, all have something in common with each other, but not me. More details on that to come.

The mystery continues.

[Moni Mac]

I'm glad I voted BUSH early. I hope you figure out what happened it's a disgrace.

Sorros said he would spend all his money to try and get Bush out of office and apparently paying people to commit voter fraud is part of his plan.

Maybe, not sure, if you get a hold of Hannity or Rush they may have their own investigators look into it for you which might help save you some money. They definately don't like this kind of stuff and would take interest in looking into it.

[Allan]

Hey Moze, I thought 'Red Hearing' was a pretty good play on words.

Tall Glass...you must do what you were advised in one of the first comments. Make copies & send at least two of them to:

Kevin Shelley, Secretary of State
1500 11th St.
Sacramento, CA 95814

Then send copies to the parties mentioned above and isn't there a blog or at least a site called voterfraud.org or something.

In this state (I'm in LA like you) where voting requires only your presence and a body temp above freezing we need this kind of evidence to convince people to get mad & force officials to fix the system.

Re the info on the address, probably a Soros funded 527 group.

[Moze]

Thanks, Allan. I missed that one...

Cheers,

[Moze]

[[TGOM, please, PLEASE do not investigate this yourself. Turn it over to the boys and girls carrying guns.]]

[Have you considered this might not exclude me?]

You now enjoy a place among the women I know who pack heat. Believe me, you are in the best of company...

Cheers,

[Wombat]

T.G.O.M.
The first step in an identity theft is to establish an electoral roll address.

An electoral roll address can be used to obtain copies of birth certificates.

With and electoral roll address and a copy birth certificate an organized criminal can fully enable identity theft.

Once your identity has been stolen it can be used to run up thousands of $ worth of debts (i.e.; furniture, white goods cars etc bought with finance.
YOU may under some state laws, unless you can prove the identity of the thief, be held accountable for these debts!
Identity theft happens all the time.
The electoral fraud may not have occurred and you may not have discovered the identity theft if there was not an election pending. (Although it may have been a dem electoral fraud)

The most disturbing thing that I can see is that they used your signature and this suggests to me organized identity theft.

Here’s some help with the address and your name linked there.
What they do is register your name at that address, and then they go straight to the post office and RE DIRECT the mail for your name to yet another address or a post box.
I have caught several people using this M.O.
Go to the post office and see if they are friendly enough to tell you if the mail has been redirected. If they are not helpful complain to the postal service investigations unit and they will help you.

Next 80% of identity theft is linked to ORGANISED CRIME. If you find any information from the postal service GO TO LAW INFORCEMENT. I and your fellow blogers care about you so stay safe.

p.s. The location of the house also suggests ID theft. A house used for this purpose is usually in an affluent area to imply that the fraudster is able to afford the purchases and loans.

[Shorts]

I stopped reading what everyone was posting when it got off topic, but to get back to the voter fraud it is a Democratic thing. I'm registered Sinn Féin (liberal group), my mom is a Democrat as well as most people in my family, and when getting involved in previous elections one of the big Democratic sayings was "Vote often".

(btw my whole family is voting Bush for '04).

[felina]

Well Moze, we wasted our replies on this commenter who doesen't even have enough conviction to leave real contact info. The bogus comment has been removed as well as our subsequent responses to such. ~tgom

[Beth]

Allen Yackey said at October 24, 2004 02:39 PM:

Merging two data bases to locate common social security numbers is too easy to discuss. But even with out that, the probability of two or more people with a common last name at a common address having the same first name and the same birthdates approached astronomical. You statistic freaks can do the math, but this little Pentium IV does two states in minutes. Then you have just a few names to check out.

Easy to do, yes. But WHO is doing it? Probably only a handful--and probably no one in any position to do anything about it other than send the information to someone else. Another question: Who has the access to the databases for comparison? Not me...

There NEEDS to be a national database of voter registrations! ACLU-ers and conspiracy freaks can kiss my ass--our right to vote is what gives us our right to "privacy." I have no paranoid fantasies about having my name in a national voter database--I want MY vote counted, not some criminal's forged vote.

[Michael Dabioch]

It sounds like you've already taken all the appropriate steps. If you really want them to get serious about cracking down on election fraud, go to the media.

[cynic]

no dodgin' it here. valid email required. ~tgom NOSPAM ok

[William Trippe]

This thread is hopelessly long, so I will not be surprised if my comment is lost or ignored, but....

You need to do a little more basic reporting here. The facts of the case are not clear from what you have written. What is your full name, and was your full name used? How common a name is this? Is it possible that someone else actually has the same name? (Chances are, someone does. It's a big world out there.)

You say the person "used your signature." What does that mean? They signed the same name that you have but in different penmanship? Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but someone who has the same name as you would have different penmanship. Does it somehow appear that this person knew what your actual signature looked like and somehow tried to replicate it? Can you show the two signatures to demonstrate this? Could you have someone who knows handwriting look at the two signatures and verify that it is some kind of forgery?

This is where the real press would provide lots of basic facts where you have failed to provide these.

Until you provide more facts, this really is nothing more than your speculation, and not really worth such a flurry of activity.

[tallglassofmilk]

[Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but someone who has the same name as you would have different penmanship.]

Forgive me for pointing out that I mentioned this already but I guess since this thread is hopelessly long you missed it.

[Does it somehow appear that this person knew what your actual signature looked like and somehow tried to replicate it? Can you show the two signatures to demonstrate this? Could you have someone who knows handwriting look at the two signatures and verify that it is some kind of forgery?]

You must have also missed the part that said I'm waiting for a copy of the affidavit from the registrar's office.

[This is where the real press would provide lots of basic facts where you have failed to provide these.]

You do realize this isn't the "real" press.? Thank God. Did you mean to insult me with this? or by calling me hysterical in your blog?

[M E-L]

Just want to say, as a Kerry supporter and a liberal, I think voter fraud is terrible. I am a true believer in democracy and the democratic process, and it upsets me when ever anyone of any political persuasion tries to upset that process. At the end of the day, we must believe in the legitimacy of our government, and the wellspring of that legitimacy is the voice of the people expressed through the ballot. Men and women have died for this basic right. We should not forget that, in all our passion for our own candidates.

By all means, go after the bastard.

[Aaron's Rantblog]

Need a local posse, TGOM? I'd gladly nominate you to the Bear Flag League.

We're a conservative group herre in deep blue California. We've had some successes and there are a few lawyers who may be able to provide some good advice.

You'll probably recognize more than a few of the BFL members. Email me if you have any interest.

[Bill Trippe]

Any update on this?

[The Machete']

TGOM,
I just came in to let you know that The Machete' of Truth's [ALL NEW!!!] Blog of Truth has been launched, but this voter fraud story is really fascinating. I have only skimmed it, but I'll be back to "drill down".

[Missouri Leadership]

Voter Fraud discovered during the Fall of 2004 in Greene County Missouri

There were discovered as many as 788 illegally registered voters at Baptist Bible College in Springfield Missouri. The Local Election Authority (Richard Struckhoff) was notified as well as the Secretary of State (Matt Blunt).

The voters were never required to properly register because the election authority was unwilling to make the politically charged decision. This voter fraud may have been occurring since 1979.

If local election authorities are unwilling or unable to enforce election law then we need an elections board to take care of voter fraud and other issues surrounding partisan politics.

How can approximately 788 people live at the same address? A Picture tells a thousand words.